and that's my concern for the environment that we have. and, again, i think it crosses both sides of the aisle. the environment we have now, brookings can come up with some really good solutions. i have confidence in that. i don't have confidence that they'll be received in a way that makes them effective. >> okay. bobby, your ideas on improving government performance. like, if we made you czar for a week, what changes would you make? >> well, first, i'd like to private industry because i really do think the performance-based cultures that we talked about are critical. and there's just so much inefficiency in government. i do think there's examples at the state level, and i'll go to my state in michigan and mention a few. things that can be done. grand rapids, there which is a n the west side of michigan in southeastern michigan, had created a virtual city. even though we're on opposite sides of the state, they actually collaborate on services like health care pooling, and grand rapids has also done the same thing with flint and lansing to